Hi, I noticed recently that Gopher directories (Type 1) are cutting off text at a width of 66 characters (74 if you count the Type discriptors). This seems to be something new and I'm wondering if the settings could be reverted to whatever it used to be (80? maybe it wasn't limited at all).
For illustration one can compare gopher directories on SDF.org to tilde.institute, both which use Gophericus:
gopher://sdf.org gopher://tilde.institute
I'm not seeing any truncation on Type 0 pages, just the "info" (Type i) content of gophermap files seems to be affected.
Perhaps there's something I could tweak in my gophermap files; please let me know if there is.
Cheers, meta4
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 10:33:52AM -0500, Meta4 wrote:
Hi, I noticed recently that Gopher directories (Type 1) are cutting off text at a width of 66 characters (74 if you count the Type discriptors). This seems to be something new and I'm wondering if the settings could be reverted to whatever it used to be (80? maybe it wasn't limited at all).
For illustration one can compare gopher directories on SDF.org to tilde.institute, both which use Gophericus:
gopher://sdf.org gopher://tilde.institute
I'm not seeing any truncation on Type 0 pages, just the "info" (Type i) content of gophermap files seems to be affected.
Perhaps there's something I could tweak in my gophermap files; please let me know if there is.
Cheers, meta4
Hi meta4,
I'm not sure, so I've copied your message and sent it to one of the maintainers of gophernicus to see what they say.
~gbmor
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 10:33:52AM -0500, Meta4 wrote:
Hi, I noticed recently that Gopher directories (Type 1) are cutting off text at a width of 66 characters (74 if you count the Type discriptors). This seems to be something new and I'm wondering if the settings could be reverted to whatever it used to be (80? maybe it wasn't limited at all).
For illustration one can compare gopher directories on SDF.org to tilde.institute, both which use Gophericus:
gopher://sdf.org gopher://tilde.institute
I'm not seeing any truncation on Type 0 pages, just the "info" (Type i) content of gophermap files seems to be affected.
Perhaps there's something I could tweak in my gophermap files; please let me know if there is.
Cheers, meta4
Hi meta4,
Alright, I heard back from them and have changed to width to 76 characters (which was the previous default, current default is 67).
Let me know if this looks OK.
~gbmor
gbmor gbmor@tilde.institute wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 10:33:52AM -0500, Meta4 wrote:
Hi, I noticed recently that Gopher directories (Type 1) are cutting off text at a width of 66 characters (74 if you count the Type discriptors). This seems to be something new and I'm wondering if the settings could be reverted to whatever it used to be (80? maybe it wasn't limited at all).
For illustration one can compare gopher directories on SDF.org to tilde.institute, both which use Gophericus:
gopher://sdf.org gopher://tilde.institute
I'm not seeing any truncation on Type 0 pages, just the "info" (Type i) content of gophermap files seems to be affected.
Perhaps there's something I could tweak in my gophermap files; please let me know if there is.
Cheers, meta4
Hi meta4,
Alright, I heard back from them and have changed to width to 76 characters (which was the previous default, current default is 67).
Let me know if this looks OK.
~gbmor
Ya, looks good, thanks! 67 is 76 reversed; wonder if it was a typo that slipped in when something else was being done. Maybe I'll ask on the gopher project mlist.
meta4
67 is a common number for gopher, actually. The old 1436 spec specifically says lines should be less than 70 characters wide. The 67 number gives room for the left-hand column to have link type descriptors so it gained popularity. You won't really run into complaining if you stick under 80 col, though.
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 11:45:16AM +0000, James Tomasino wrote:
67 is a common number for gopher, actually. The old 1436 spec specifically says lines should be less than 70 characters wide. The 67 number gives room for the left-hand column to have link type descriptors so it gained popularity. You won't really run into complaining if you stick under 80 col, though.
Oh that's cool!
gbmor gbmor@tilde.institute wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 10:33:52AM -0500, Meta4 wrote:
Hi, I noticed recently that Gopher directories (Type 1) are cutting off text at a width of 66 characters (74 if you count the Type discriptors). This seems to be something new and I'm wondering if the settings could be reverted to whatever it used to be (80? maybe it wasn't limited at all).
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Alright, I heard back from them and have changed to width to 76 characters (which was the previous default, current default is 67).
Let me know if this looks OK. ~gbmor
Hi, Seems the width reverted back to 67; could we make it 76 again?
~meta4
On Sun, 2023-06-11 at 22:02 -0400, gbmor wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:14:46AM +0000, Meta4 wrote:
Hi, Seems the width reverted back to 67; could we make it 76 again?
~meta4
Yep, just fixed it. Thanks for letting me know.
So it's back to "kind of 'wrong'" again?
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 11:45 +0000, James Tomasino wrote:
67 is a common number for gopher, actually. The old 1436 spec specifically says lines should be less than 70 characters wide. The 67 number gives room for the left-hand column to have link type descriptors so it gained popularity. You won't really run into complaining if you stick under 80 col, though.
67 may be a bit too small for my taste but running into line widths over 80 chars is a no go in my eyes. So if only given the choice of 67 vs 76, I'll prefer 67.
Comparing elinks, emacs/elpher and w3m in 80 chars wide xterms. I don't think I've more textmode clients installed.
Only w3m manages to stay within 80CpL with the current setup.
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