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by rdh＠tilde.institute

Hey all, Who's still here in the big year 2026? I couldn't help but notice that we're a few versions behind on OpenBSD releases, and that the https cert has expired recently. I know this is just a hobby project, and I want to make it clear that I expect no kind of SLA or anything, just checking in. Me? Jeeze, I've had a heck of a few years. Got fired, got a great new job, lost that job due to... Uhh, real life stuff we don't need to get into, had some shit jobs and now I'm in probably the best job I've ever had. What about you? Is the UNIX social network stil there? What neat stuff have you seen in this space lately? Love and peace, ~rdh

3 months, 3 weeks

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[Gnus Experiments] tap tap tap

by yeti

In a small arm of a spiral galaxy named '.gnus' some new lines have surfaced ... ╭──────────────────────────╮ ╭┤ Beware of testing yetis! ├──────────────────────────────────╮ │╰──────────────────────────╯ │ │ (setq │ │ sendmail-command "ssh tilde.institute sendmail \x22$@\x22" │ │ message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail │ │ ) │ │ │ ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ... and if you can read this, it may have even worked. -- GeorgeCMusic What if Vangelis did a Doctor Who Theme? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4SwBHe8oE>

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Fwd: Re: Hey, who's still around?

by paco (e1e0)

Even though I'm subscribed to a gazillion mailing lists, apparently I still hit the wrong button when responding to a list email ... Anyway, forwarding this to the right place. And sorry rdh for the duplicate. -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- From: "paco (e1e0)" <erxeto(a)tilde.institute> To: rdh(a)tilde.institute Subject: Re: Hey, who's still around? rdh(a)tilde.institute writes: > Hey all, Hey hey ! > Who's still here in the big year 2026? I couldn't > help but notice that we're a few versions behind > on OpenBSD releases, and that the https cert has > expired recently. > > I know this is just a hobby project, and I want > to make it clear that I expect no kind of SLA or > anything, just checking in. Just as the others that have answered, I'm "around" but barely active. Truth is I've never been active here or on ~team, where I have an account too. I rarely get into IRC and this list has always been super-duper-low-traffic. Even though I find the community around tilde servers nice and welcoming, I can't help but feeling that the whole concept is a nice tool waiting for a problem to solve. I mean, usually the online communities that get traction are the ones focused on a narrow or specific topic. This is quite the opposite, so you end up being "alone", but with a bunch of other people telling you "hey, cool stuff you did there !" ... That's why, I think, initiatives like tilde radio and other more niche or specific are still sort of active. Anyway, just a thought. In any case, maintaining a pubnix involves quite a bit of work and probably gbmor and the other admins don't have the time for it. At this point I think we're 5 (soon 6) versions behind, which will require quite a bit of time to update, specially when we have custom software and configurations that will break for sure between updates. It would probably be better to just backup, and start from a fresh install. My point is, either you're on top of it, or the difficulty of maintaining the server stacks up with every release you "miss". > Me? Jeeze, I've had a heck of a few years. Got > fired, got a great new job, lost that job due to... > Uhh, real life stuff we don't need to get into, > had some shit jobs and now I'm in probably the > best job I've ever had. What about you? That was quite a roller-coaster. Glad to read you landed softly. About me, outside of work (which does not count as life), cycling as much as I can and picking up tech adjacent hobbies that allow me to still use technology but in a way that I don't hate it (again, because of work ...) in a more calm and relaxed manner. > Is the UNIX social network stil there? What neat > stuff have you seen in this space lately? Probably part of the slow demise (for lack of a bette word) is to compare this to a social network. Or what we currently understand as a social network. The interactions, barrier to entry and "engagement" are totally different. That's why (I think, maybe ...) make it go quiet after the novelty wears off. But what do I know. I never had any kind of social media account besides a brief time where I had a Mastodon account which I abandoned hehehehe. > Love and peace, > > ~rdh -- erxeto, aka e1e0. -------------------- End of forwarded message -------------------- -- erxeto, aka e1e0.

4 months

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Expired certificates for users website on tilde.institute

by mydeardiary＠tilde.institute

Hi, Recently, my user site at tilde.institute[^1] cannot be accessed because of certificate expiry. I want to know if user certificate is managed centrally on tilde.institute or delegated to users to renew the certificate. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. [1] https://mydeardiary.tilde.institute

2 years, 4 months

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Gambit-4.9.3 glitch on ~institute.

by yeti

I do not bite, I just want to play: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (yeti@tilde.institute:p2)~/gambit$ cat mb2.scm (let* ((xmin -2 ) (xmax 2 ) (ymin -2 ) (ymax 2 ) (dx 4/78) (dy 4/32) (maxi 17 )) (do ((cy ymin (+ cy dy))) ((> cy ymax)) (do ((cx xmin (+ cx dx))) ((> cx xmax) (newline)) (do ((x 0) (y 0) (x2 0) (y2 0) (i 0)) ((or (>= i maxi) (> (+ x2 y2) 4)) (print (integer->char (+ i 64)))) (set! y (+ (* 2 x y) cy)) (set! x (+ (- x2 y2) cx)) (set! i (+ i 1)) (set! x2 (* x x)) (set! y2 (* y y)) ) ) ) ) (yeti@tilde.institute:p2)~/gambit$ cat mb2ce.scm (let* ((xmin -2 ) (xmax +2 ) (ymin -2i ) (ymax +2i ) (dx 4/78) (dy +4/32i) (maxi 17 )) (do ((cy ymin (+ cy dy))) ((> (imag-part cy) (imag-part ymax))) (do ((cx xmin (+ cx dx))) ((> (real-part cx) (real-part xmax)) (newline)) (do ((z 0 (+ (* z z) cx cy)) (i 0 (+ i 1))) ((or (>= i maxi) (> (magnitude z) 2)) (print (integer->char (+ i 64)))) ) ) ) ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Those are two ways to print the "full circle" Mandelbrot set image, one using fractions, the other using complex fractions. And they produce exactly the same output: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (yeti@tilde.institute:p2)~/gambit$ sha1sum *.out 48ddbd025206b0cab9cfedaa48d075daa56ce685 mb2.scm.out 48ddbd025206b0cab9cfedaa48d075daa56ce685 mb2ce.scm.out -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Boring, isn't it? But wait! There is more: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (yeti@tilde.institute:p2)~/gambit$ cat mb2.scm.out AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAABBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDEGEEDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAA AAAAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDEEFGKIJQEDDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAA AAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEEEFEEQEEIEEEDDDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAA AAABBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEFFFGGHPQQQQQHGFFEEEDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA AABBCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDEEEEFGOEEQEEQEEQEEQEEQENJQIEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA AABCCCCCCCCCCDDEEEEEEEEFFGJKQQQQQQQQQQQHQQQQQQLGEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA ABCCCCCDDDDEEFEIGGHPHGGHHKQQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEJEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA ACCDDDDDDEEEFGHJQQQQQQQKLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQGQQQQQQQLGEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA ADDDDDEEEFEEKJEQQQQQQQQQQQQQQEQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEFEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQKHFEEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB ADDDDDEFFFGHKJLQEEQEEQEEQEQQEQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQIFEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA ACCDDDDDDEEEFGHJQQQQQQQKLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA ABCCCCCDDDDEEFHIEEHEEGEEHEQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQMJEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA AABCCCCCCCCCCDDEEEEEEEEFFGJKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA AABBCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDEEEEEGOQQQNQQQQQQQQQQQIEJEEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA AAABBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEFFFGGHPQQQQGHGFFEEEDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA AAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEEEFJKQQMIFEEDDDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAA AAAAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDEEFGKIJQEDDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAA AAAAAAABBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDEEEEDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So both are wrong in exactly the same way! Now it gets interesting? Running the same programs at home (Gambit-4.9.5 on Debian11) yields the same output for both variants too: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (yeti@kumari:16)~/wrk/gambit$ sha1sum *.out 2afc568d51b567a515f8d8197d7606351fce9ebc mb2ce.scm.out 2afc568d51b567a515f8d8197d7606351fce9ebc mb2.scm.out -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's fine! BUT WAIT! That's a different SHAsum! Let's have a look: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (yeti@kumari:16)~/wrk/gambit$ cat mb2.scm.out AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAABBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDEGEEDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAA AAAAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDEEFGKIJQEDDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAA AAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEEEFJKQQMIFEEDDDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAA AAABBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEFFFGGHPQQQQQHGFFEEEDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA AABBCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDEEEEFGOQQQNQQQQQQQQQQQINJQIEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA AABCCCCCCCCCCDDEEEEEEEEFFGJKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA ABCCCCCDDDDEEFHIGGHPHGGHHKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQMJEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA ACCDDDDDDEEEFGHJQQQQQQQKLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA ADDDDDEFFFGHKJLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQIFEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQKHFEEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB ADDDDDEFFFGHKJLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQIFEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA ACCDDDDDDEEEFGHJQQQQQQQKLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA ABCCCCCDDDDEEFHIGGHPHGGHHKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQMJEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA AABCCCCCCCCCCDDEEEEEEEEFFGJKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA AABBCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDEEEEFGOQQQNQQQQQQQQQQQINJQIEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA AAABBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEFFFGGHPQQQQQHGFFEEEDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA AAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEEEFJKQQMIFEEDDDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAA AAAAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDEEFGKIJQEDDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAA AAAAAAABBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDEGEEDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And this one looks like one would expect! While Gambit-4.9.3 on ~institute glitches in the same way for both test programs, Gambit-4.9.5 at home does not. I dare to assume, that both programs are "correct enough" and the problem is somewhere in Gambit-4.9.3 or the bignum library it uses on OpenBSD7.3 and therefore I suggest to uninstall Gambit on ~institute.

2 years, 5 months

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tilde.institute going down for maintenance

by gbmor

Hi, tilde.institute is going down for maintenance. It will be back up in a bit. It could be down for 2-3 hours at the most. ~gbmor

3 years

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Inquiry - Use of OpenBSD Unix on Crypto Blockchains

by Michael G Workman

Hello, I am a big fan of OpenBSD Unix, I have plans to use it with my business in the future. I had a question, does anyone know if OpenBSD is being used on any Crypto Blockchains? And if so, which ones? Interested to know. Thanks. *Michael G. Workman* +1 (321) 432-9295 +1 (321) 613-8607 michael.g.workman(a)gmail.com

3 years

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Gophernicus directories

by Meta4

Hi, I noticed recently that Gopher directories (Type 1) are cutting off text at a width of 66 characters (74 if you count the Type discriptors). This seems to be something new and I'm wondering if the settings could be reverted to whatever it used to be (80? maybe it wasn't limited at all). For illustration one can compare gopher directories on SDF.org to tilde.institute, both which use Gophericus: gopher://sdf.org gopher://tilde.institute I'm not seeing any truncation on Type 0 pages, just the "info" (Type i) content of gophermap files seems to be affected. Perhaps there's something I could tweak in my gophermap files; please let me know if there is. Cheers, meta4

3 years, 2 months

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Say it thru crontab...

by yeti

##++ ## 1993-04-19 20:06:49 -0700 - Announce of NetBSD-0.8 Release ## == ## 1993-04-20 03:06:49 UTC - so I schedule this on Apr-20 ## 0 0 20 4 * mail -s '[cron] Happy Birthday NetBSD!' $(id -un)%See: https://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/release/NetBSD/NetBSD-0.8%%\o/ ##--

3 years, 3 months

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Top Secret!

by yeti

I've not thrown my noise at this list for a far too long time and just have noticed something that may be interesting for Weechat fans. Once upon a unixtime in irc://irc.libera.chat/#weechat-offtopic: ----------8<---------------------------------------------------------- 1679780374 manu1 nils_2: has there ever been a weechat user meetup in real life? FlashCode 1679781397 @FlashCode I'll organize something for the 20 years of WeeChat (birthday is on June 21th) 1679781416 @FlashCode but probably a virtual event ---------->8---------------------------------------------------------- As this appeared in Weechat's 1000% public offtopic chitchat channel I think I won't be decapiated for noticing it here. Even if such an event won't happen, visiting the Weechat channel(s) at that date might turn into fun.

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