Hey all,
Who's still here in the big year 2026? I couldn't
help but notice that we're a few versions behind
on OpenBSD releases, and that the https cert has
expired recently.
I know this is just a hobby project, and I want
to make it clear that I expect no kind of SLA or
anything, just checking in.
Me? Jeeze, I've had a heck of a few years. Got
fired, got a great new job, lost that job due to...
Uhh, real life stuff we don't need to get into,
had some shit jobs and now I'm in probably the
best job I've ever had. What about you?
Is the UNIX social network stil there? What neat
stuff have you seen in this space lately?
Love and peace,
~rdh
In a small arm of a spiral galaxy named '.gnus' some new lines have
surfaced ...
╭──────────────────────────╮
╭┤ Beware of testing yetis! ├──────────────────────────────────╮
│╰──────────────────────────╯ │
│ (setq │
│ sendmail-command "ssh tilde.institute sendmail \x22$@\x22" │
│ message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail │
│ ) │
│ │
╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯
... and if you can read this, it may have even worked.
--
GeorgeCMusic
What if Vangelis did a Doctor Who Theme?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4SwBHe8oE>
Even though I'm subscribed to a gazillion mailing lists, apparently I still hit
the wrong button when responding to a list email ...
Anyway, forwarding this to the right place.
And sorry rdh for the duplicate.
-------------------- Start of forwarded message --------------------
From: "paco (e1e0)" <erxeto(a)tilde.institute>
To: rdh(a)tilde.institute
Subject: Re: Hey, who's still around?
rdh(a)tilde.institute writes:
> Hey all,
Hey hey !
> Who's still here in the big year 2026? I couldn't
> help but notice that we're a few versions behind
> on OpenBSD releases, and that the https cert has
> expired recently.
>
> I know this is just a hobby project, and I want
> to make it clear that I expect no kind of SLA or
> anything, just checking in.
Just as the others that have answered, I'm "around" but barely active.
Truth is I've never been active here or on ~team, where I have an account too.
I rarely get into IRC and this list has always been super-duper-low-traffic.
Even though I find the community around tilde servers nice and welcoming, I can't
help but feeling that the whole concept is a nice tool waiting for a problem to
solve.
I mean, usually the online communities that get traction are the ones focused on
a narrow or specific topic. This is quite the opposite, so you end up being
"alone", but with a bunch of other people telling you "hey, cool stuff you did
there !" ...
That's why, I think, initiatives like tilde radio and other more niche or
specific are still sort of active. Anyway, just a thought.
In any case, maintaining a pubnix involves quite a bit of work and probably
gbmor and the other admins don't have the time for it.
At this point I think we're 5 (soon 6) versions behind, which will require quite
a bit of time to update, specially when we have custom software and
configurations that will break for sure between updates. It would probably be
better to just backup, and start from a fresh install.
My point is, either you're on top of it, or the difficulty of maintaining the
server stacks up with every release you "miss".
> Me? Jeeze, I've had a heck of a few years. Got
> fired, got a great new job, lost that job due to...
> Uhh, real life stuff we don't need to get into,
> had some shit jobs and now I'm in probably the
> best job I've ever had. What about you?
That was quite a roller-coaster. Glad to read you landed softly.
About me, outside of work (which does not count as life), cycling as much as I
can and picking up tech adjacent hobbies that allow me to still use technology
but in a way that I don't hate it (again, because of work ...) in a more calm
and relaxed manner.
> Is the UNIX social network stil there? What neat
> stuff have you seen in this space lately?
Probably part of the slow demise (for lack of a bette word) is to compare this
to a social network. Or what we currently understand as a social network.
The interactions, barrier to entry and "engagement" are totally different.
That's why (I think, maybe ...) make it go quiet after the novelty wears off.
But what do I know. I never had any kind of social media account besides a
brief time where I had a Mastodon account which I abandoned hehehehe.
> Love and peace,
>
> ~rdh
--
erxeto, aka e1e0.
-------------------- End of forwarded message --------------------
--
erxeto, aka e1e0.
Hi,
Recently, my user site at tilde.institute[^1] cannot be accessed because of certificate expiry.
I want to know if user certificate is managed centrally on tilde.institute or delegated to users to renew the certificate.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
[1] https://mydeardiary.tilde.institute
I do not bite, I just want to play:
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(yeti@tilde.institute:p2)~/gambit$ cat mb2.scm
(let* ((xmin -2 ) (xmax 2 )
(ymin -2 ) (ymax 2 )
(dx 4/78) (dy 4/32)
(maxi 17 ))
(do ((cy ymin (+ cy dy)))
((> cy ymax))
(do ((cx xmin (+ cx dx)))
((> cx xmax) (newline))
(do ((x 0) (y 0) (x2 0) (y2 0) (i 0))
((or (>= i maxi) (> (+ x2 y2) 4)) (print (integer->char (+ i 64))))
(set! y (+ (* 2 x y) cy))
(set! x (+ (- x2 y2) cx))
(set! i (+ i 1))
(set! x2 (* x x))
(set! y2 (* y y))
)
)
)
)
(yeti@tilde.institute:p2)~/gambit$ cat mb2ce.scm
(let* ((xmin -2 ) (xmax +2 )
(ymin -2i ) (ymax +2i )
(dx 4/78) (dy +4/32i)
(maxi 17 ))
(do ((cy ymin (+ cy dy)))
((> (imag-part cy) (imag-part ymax)))
(do ((cx xmin (+ cx dx)))
((> (real-part cx) (real-part xmax)) (newline))
(do ((z 0 (+ (* z z) cx cy)) (i 0 (+ i 1)))
((or (>= i maxi) (> (magnitude z) 2)) (print (integer->char (+ i 64))))
)
)
)
)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are two ways to print the "full circle" Mandelbrot set image, one using
fractions, the other using complex fractions.
And they produce exactly the same output:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(yeti@tilde.institute:p2)~/gambit$ sha1sum *.out
48ddbd025206b0cab9cfedaa48d075daa56ce685 mb2.scm.out
48ddbd025206b0cab9cfedaa48d075daa56ce685 mb2ce.scm.out
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Boring, isn't it?
But wait!
There is more:
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(yeti@tilde.institute:p2)~/gambit$ cat mb2.scm.out
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAABBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDEGEEDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAA
AAAAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDEEFGKIJQEDDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAA
AAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEEEFEEQEEIEEEDDDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAA
AAABBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEFFFGGHPQQQQQHGFFEEEDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA
AABBCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDEEEEFGOEEQEEQEEQEEQEEQENJQIEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA
AABCCCCCCCCCCDDEEEEEEEEFFGJKQQQQQQQQQQQHQQQQQQLGEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA
ABCCCCCDDDDEEFEIGGHPHGGHHKQQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEJEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
ACCDDDDDDEEEFGHJQQQQQQQKLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQGQQQQQQQLGEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
ADDDDDEEEFEEKJEQQQQQQQQQQQQQQEQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEQEEFEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQKHFEEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
ADDDDDEFFFGHKJLQEEQEEQEEQEQQEQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQIFEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
ACCDDDDDDEEEFGHJQQQQQQQKLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
ABCCCCCDDDDEEFHIEEHEEGEEHEQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQMJEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
AABCCCCCCCCCCDDEEEEEEEEFFGJKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA
AABBCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDEEEEEGOQQQNQQQQQQQQQQQIEJEEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA
AAABBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEFFFGGHPQQQQGHGFFEEEDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA
AAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEEEFJKQQMIFEEDDDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAA
AAAAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDEEFGKIJQEDDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAA
AAAAAAABBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDEEEEDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So both are wrong in exactly the same way!
Now it gets interesting?
Running the same programs at home (Gambit-4.9.5 on Debian11) yields the same
output for both variants too:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(yeti@kumari:16)~/wrk/gambit$ sha1sum *.out
2afc568d51b567a515f8d8197d7606351fce9ebc mb2ce.scm.out
2afc568d51b567a515f8d8197d7606351fce9ebc mb2.scm.out
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's fine!
BUT WAIT!
That's a different SHAsum!
Let's have a look:
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(yeti@kumari:16)~/wrk/gambit$ cat mb2.scm.out
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAABBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDEGEEDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAA
AAAAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDEEFGKIJQEDDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAA
AAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEEEFJKQQMIFEEDDDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAA
AAABBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEFFFGGHPQQQQQHGFFEEEDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA
AABBCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDEEEEFGOQQQNQQQQQQQQQQQINJQIEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA
AABCCCCCCCCCCDDEEEEEEEEFFGJKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA
ABCCCCCDDDDEEFHIGGHPHGGHHKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQMJEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
ACCDDDDDDEEEFGHJQQQQQQQKLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
ADDDDDEFFFGHKJLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQIFEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQKHFEEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
ADDDDDEFFFGHKJLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQIFEDDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
ACCDDDDDDEEEFGHJQQQQQQQKLQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
ABCCCCCDDDDEEFHIGGHPHGGHHKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQMJEDDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBA
AABCCCCCCCCCCDDEEEEEEEEFFGJKQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQLGEEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA
AABBCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDEEEEFGOQQQNQQQQQQQQQQQINJQIEDCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAA
AAABBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEFFFGGHPQQQQQHGFFEEEDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAA
AAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDEEEFJKQQMIFEEDDDDCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAA
AAAAAABBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDEEFGKIJQEDDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAA
AAAAAAABBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDEGEEDDDCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And this one looks like one would expect!
While Gambit-4.9.3 on ~institute glitches in the same way for both test
programs, Gambit-4.9.5 at home does not.
I dare to assume, that both programs are "correct enough" and the problem is
somewhere in Gambit-4.9.3 or the bignum library it uses on OpenBSD7.3 and
therefore I suggest to uninstall Gambit on ~institute.
Hello,
I am a big fan of OpenBSD Unix, I have plans to use it with my business in
the future.
I had a question, does anyone know if OpenBSD is being used on any Crypto
Blockchains? And if so, which ones?
Interested to know.
Thanks.
*Michael G. Workman*
+1 (321) 432-9295
+1 (321) 613-8607
michael.g.workman(a)gmail.com
Hi,
I noticed recently that Gopher directories (Type 1) are cutting off
text at a width of 66 characters (74 if you count the Type discriptors).
This seems to be something new and I'm wondering if the settings
could be reverted to whatever it used to be (80? maybe it wasn't
limited at all).
For illustration one can compare gopher directories on SDF.org to
tilde.institute, both which use Gophericus:
gopher://sdf.org
gopher://tilde.institute
I'm not seeing any truncation on Type 0 pages, just the "info"
(Type i) content of gophermap files seems to be affected.
Perhaps there's something I could tweak in my gophermap files;
please let me know if there is.
Cheers,
meta4
I've not thrown my noise at this list for a far too long time and just
have noticed something that may be interesting for Weechat fans.
Once upon a unixtime in irc://irc.libera.chat/#weechat-offtopic:
----------8<----------------------------------------------------------
1679780374 manu1 nils_2: has there ever been a weechat user
meetup in real life? FlashCode
1679781397 @FlashCode I'll organize something for the 20 years of
WeeChat (birthday is on June 21th)
1679781416 @FlashCode but probably a virtual event
---------->8----------------------------------------------------------
As this appeared in Weechat's 1000% public offtopic chitchat channel I
think I won't be decapiated for noticing it here. Even if such an
event won't happen, visiting the Weechat channel(s) at that date might
turn into fun.