yeti yeti@tilde.institute wrote:
There are too many services where Tildeverse can meet. That may be the problem. I see that with other Pubnixens too.
There should be a clear official entry point ...
I can reply from home. Using a *nix at home, you probably can too.
I use nail and not mailx, because mails are delivered in Maildir format.
I did "telnet tilde.institute 25", perhaps I can send from home with smtp instead of the local sendmail.
But is my Maildir offered with imap for reading from home? Note: normaly Mails offered by imap should not be touched by normal mail clients at the server as I am doing now.
I was used to ssh (rsh) for using remote mailx. No tragedy.
I'm surprised that there is such a big difference between NNTP, mailinglists and shared and public IMAP folders.
Mailing lists *send* to everybody subscribed even if they do not want to read. With nntp / imap people interested *retrieve* what they want to read. There is a big difference.
I never tried public imap folders, but I know it is possible with cyrus imap.
One? I've no idea how many newsreaders are installde @tilde.institute, you mentioned one, I sometimes test configurations of a different one (Gnus) on ~institute, so that makes already two. I'm very optimistic that there are even lots more of them.
Now I remember, I used nn only for short time, later rn, and slrn is installed. Also tin and emacs with gnus are installed.
Perhaps because it [USENET] is not flexible in creating and ordering discussion forums, because of spam, because it needs a special news reader. This problems could perhaps be solved with a nntp to http gateway and some custom nntp headers, but needs some programming.
I know newsgrouper. Tcl Program. Perhaps that could be the beginning for programming the right gateway.
With tcp you get lossles transmission in a medium where losslessnes is not guarantied. With encryption you get privacy in a public medium. The idea is now to get a clean forum from a dirty medium (USENET group full of spam and irrelevant discussions). The cleaning work done at the level of the nntp to html gateway. Of course, this cleaning is not necessary in private newsgroups.
Less is more. Pubnixens seem to happily run into the too many services trap and that makes near to every of those meeting places a lonely space.
One easy to use forum in the foreground, leaving the other possibilities in the backgroung, could be the solution. Web-forums are perhaps the easiest to use, one must in principle only know how to deal with the web browser.
The original atoms of communication were texts with header lines being sent between nodes, so basically mail and news. With faster permanently connected nodes chat got traction too.
We should restart a network uning only these from scratch.
with standard technic ...
hruodr.