Command Line Interface List of things you need to do.

please don't top-post cmccabe

On Fri, 04 Jan 2019, ubergeek wrote:

This is one mailing list etiquette rule I don't particularly agree with. I do not want to halt to scroll to the end of a message just to see the content...

Well ...

A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?

If done correctly, you don't need to jump to the end of the message, just to the place you want to reply to. An just read normally if you're not going to answer. Top posting is just adding junk at the end of the email just because the top poster is lazy and does not care a bit about other's people circumstances.

It increases the size of each email needlessly (people with crappy connections will be very happy) specially on long conversations.

We have threaded mail clients... We know the message content. "No top posting" is from the days of yore, prior to threaded client views.

We do have threaded mail clients. If you add that to a clean conversation it makes mailing lists a pleasant experience, if not is just distracting. I for example end up not even bother reading bad formatted emails (html, repetitive top posting, thread reuse ...). You can say "I'm too old for this shit".

Email communication is not the simplest and more natural, so if we "pervert" it, it becomes unusable in the end. Although that's probably just my opinion.

Again, in my opinion, is not so difficult to follow the netiquette, and it makes things a lot easier for the reader. In the end, the one who writes has to make the effort of writing the content anyway, so make it simple to read and follow ...

Oh !, and happy new year ~teammates !

Grumpy old guy over and out.

If done correctly, you don't need to jump to the end of the message, just to the place you want to reply to. An just read normally if you're not going to answer. Top posting is just adding junk at the end of the email just because the top poster is lazy and does not care a bit about other's people circumstances.

Exactly. I find mid-posting acceptable, as it really looks like you are replying. to a certain part of the email.

I don't think it's fair to say, however, that all top-posters are lazy. Many of them may just not know mailing list ettiquite or don't agree with it, however, on this list, iirc, at the beginning there was a mail sent out to the list saying that top-posting should not be done.

It increases the size of each email needlessly (people with crappy connections will be very happy) specially on long conversations.

+1

We do have threaded mail clients. If you add that to a clean conversation it makes mailing lists a pleasant experience, if not is just distracting. I for example end up not even bother reading bad formatted emails (html, repetitive top posting, thread reuse ...). You can say "I'm too old for this shit".

We *do* have threaded mail clients. Not everyone does. Some of us do not prefer them, myself included. For clients such as mutt, top-posting is very annoying and makes it difficult to follow the conversation.

Email communication is not the simplest and more natural, so if we "pervert" it, it becomes unusable in the end. Although that's probably just my opinion.

my opinion also

Again, in my opinion, is not so difficult to follow the netiquette, and it makes things a lot easier for the reader. In the end, the one who writes has to make the effort of writing the content anyway, so make it simple to read and follow ...

so yes please, follow the netiquette. no offence anyone, this did not mean to sound rude.

Oh !, and happy new year ~teammates !

Grumpy old guy over and out.

-- Paco Esteban https://onna.be/gpgkey.asc

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 14:15, rgdrake@tilde.team wrote:

Command Line Interface List of things you need to do.

I'd recommend having a public bounty-style wish list and a private to-do list. The public bounty-style wish list would be things you wanted done but didn't want to do yourself. You could offer rewards for them if you wanted (future integration with tilde.team's version of tildecoin?)

The private to-do would be a traditional to-do list. One thing that a lot of to-do lists don't do well is time-zones. A way to set reminders and deadlines that can have a floating time-zone, so "8 am next Sunday" means whenever that is according to the time-zone right now (instead of the time-zone when the entry was created), or a fixed time-zone, where the time-zone is fixed during creation to a specific time zone (not necessarily the then-current time zone at the time of creation).

It would also be worthwhile to make the program plugin-based, so that its functionality can grow easily over time with user contributions and pull-requests.

Finally, separate the UI code from the backend code, make a separate to-do server and client, and don't exclusively use ncurses for UI.

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