*Looking for input on creating guidelines to help improve this mailing list and make moderation more consistent. *
*Please take a look and comment your thoughts and suggestions.*
*https://github.com/tildeclub/site/pull/40*
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*Thanks *
*~deepend *
On 2022-02-08 05:04 GMT, deepend wrote:
*Looking for input on creating guidelines to help improve this mailing list and make moderation more consistent.
*Please take a look and comment your thoughts and suggestions.*
Oh that's a bit big. Not many people are going to remember 23 points before posting, are they? There's already the page pointed to by the list's welcome mail, https://tilde.wiki/mailing_lists. It's widely ignored (e.g. your post wasn't in all plain text! I think Thunderbird added those surplus asterisks to the plain part). I can't see adding more rules is going to make much improvement in practise. I'll comment though.
- Write in clear, grammatical, correctly-spelled language.
This won't really be enforced, will it? It would take out half of native-English speakers' posts and I don't think would be fair on non-native speakers (assuming they're posting in English).
Of course, if it *is* enforced, I'm assuming it will demand strictly British English, as the original and genuine!
- Include your real name and email address in posts.
What's considered a "real name"? Are "barnold" or "deepend" real names?
- Avoid sarcasm and humor to keep from being misunderstood.
No humo(u)r?? That would be sad.
I actually liked the recent burst of life on the list, it's easy enough to delete posts that are silly or annoying. I don't agree that you've "been a failure as far as moderating and managing this mailing list". Maybe restrict subscription and posting to tildeverse addresses?
Thanks for requesting comments and I hope I did't make you regret it!
On 2/8/22 3:56 AM, barnold@tilde.club wrote:
On 2022-02-08 05:04 GMT, deepend wrote:
*Looking for input on creating guidelines to help improve this mailing list and make moderation more consistent.
*Please take a look and comment your thoughts and suggestions.*
Oh that's a bit big. Not many people are going to remember 23 points before posting, are they? There's already the page pointed to by the list's welcome mail, https://tilde.wiki/mailing_lists. It's widely ignored (e.g. your post wasn't in all plain text! I think Thunderbird added those surplus asterisks to the plain part). I can't see adding more rules is going to make much improvement in practise. I'll comment though.
They are guidelines not set in stone rules. If there is an issue it will help with making moderation decisions more then anything. The draft was not thought out. It was an example I found. So figured it would just be a good jumping off point.
I think the recent changes would have fixed the rest of your comments :)
Thanks
Appreciate the good-faith effort to quickly step up clear moderation of what has historically been such a quiet mailing list, deepend.
On Feb 8, 2022, at 1:22 PM, deepend deepend@tilde.club wrote:
On 2/8/22 3:56 AM, barnold@tilde.club mailto:barnold@tilde.club wrote:
On 2022-02-08 05:04 GMT, deepend wrote:
*Looking for input on creating guidelines to help improve this mailing list and make moderation more consistent.
*Please take a look and comment your thoughts and suggestions.*
Oh that's a bit big. Not many people are going to remember 23 points before posting, are they? There's already the page pointed to by the list's welcome mail, https://tilde.wiki/mailing_lists. It's widely ignored (e.g. your post wasn't in all plain text! I think Thunderbird added those surplus asterisks to the plain part). I can't see adding more rules is going to make much improvement in practise. I'll comment though.
They are guidelines not set in stone rules. If there is an issue it will help with making moderation decisions more then anything. The draft was not thought out. It was an example I found. So figured it would just be a good jumping off point.
I think the recent changes would have fixed the rest of your comments :)
Thanks
Hi all
I would like to send messages from my tilde address to the tilde mailing with my external mail client (MailMate on macOS).
I have tried to set the sender address to halloleo@tilde.club, but I get the error
Unexpected return code 550 (expected 250): “5.7.0 From address is not one of your addresses”.
I guess my normal SMTP server does not allow sender address outside its domain.
So how can I send tilde.club emails with my mail client? Does tilde.club has an SMTP server I can add into my mail client for these emails?
Many thanks, halloleo
Hi halloleo!
https://tilde.club/wiki/email.html details the ~club SMTP/IMAP/POP services and how to connect.
Cheers, wgreenhouse
Feb 8, 2022 6:50:29 PM halloleo@tilde.club:
Hi all
I would like to send messages from my tilde address to the tilde mailing with my external mail client (MailMate on macOS).
I have tried to set the sender address to halloleo@tilde.club, but I get the error
Unexpected return code 550 (expected 250): “5.7.0 From address is not one of your addresses”.
I guess my normal SMTP server does not allow sender address outside its domain.
So how can I send tilde.club emails with my mail client? Does tilde.club has an SMTP server I can add into my mail client for these emails?
Many thanks, halloleo
Hi all
thanks for all the replies - I should have found the wiki page myself…
All good now. This message I send from my local email client! 😄
Cheers, Leo
On 9 Feb 2022, at 10:53, wgreenhouse wrote:
Hi halloleo!
https://tilde.club/wiki/email.html details the ~club SMTP/IMAP/POP services and how to connect.
Cheers, wgreenhouse
Feb 8, 2022 6:50:29 PM halloleo@tilde.club:
Hi all
I would like to send messages from my tilde address to the tilde mailing with my external mail client (MailMate on macOS).
I have tried to set the sender address to halloleo@tilde.club, but I get the error
Unexpected return code 550 (expected 250): “5.7.0 From address is not one of your addresses”.
I guess my normal SMTP server does not allow sender address outside its domain.
So how can I send tilde.club emails with my mail client? Does tilde.club has an SMTP server I can add into my mail client for these emails?
Many thanks, halloleo
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, at 17:50, halloleo@tilde.club wrote:
Hi all
Hello!
I would like to send messages from my tilde address to the tilde mailing with my external mail client (MailMate on macOS).
The wiki has some information on this topic. http://tilde.club/wiki/email.html#non-cli-options
The tl;dr version
- smtp.tilde.club port 587 with starttls - use only your tilde username as the login name
Hey deepend,
The current version of the guidelines (with only 18 points) looks great to me. Thanks for managing this!
Cheers, Leo
-- http://www.tilde.club/~halloleo
February 9, 2022 6:22 AM, "deepend" deepend@tilde.club wrote:
On 2/8/22 3:56 AM, barnold@tilde.club wrote:
On 2022-02-08 05:04 GMT, deepend wrote:
*Looking for input on creating guidelines to help improve this mailing list and make moderation more consistent.
*Please take a look and comment your thoughts and suggestions.*
*https://github.com/tildeclub/site/pull/40*
Oh that's a bit big. Not many people are going to remember 23 points before posting, are they? There's already the page pointed to by the list's welcome mail, https://tilde.wiki/mailing_lists. It's widely ignored (e.g. your post wasn't in all plain text! I think Thunderbird added those surplus asterisks to the plain part). I can't see adding more rules is going to make much improvement in practise. I'll comment though.
They are guidelines not set in stone rules. If there is an issue it will help with making moderation decisions more then anything. The draft was not thought out. It was an example I found. So figured it would just be a good jumping off point.
I think the recent changes would have fixed the rest of your comments :)
Thanks
Hi deepend.
Maybe add a note reminding people that the mailing list is archived in a public location and therefore there should be no expectation of privacy.
Sent from my iSeries
On 8 Feb 2022, at 05:05, deepend deepend@tilde.club wrote:
Looking for input on creating guidelines to help improve this mailing list and make moderation more consistent.
Please take a look and comment your thoughts and suggestions.
https://github.com/tildeclub/site/pull/40
Thanks
~deepend
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